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State of the Union
QtCo took over maintainership from KDAB
- Jan Arve: layouts
- Gabriel: style
- Eskil: text
- Andreas: graphics view
- Richard: overall
- still unassigned: stylesheets, windows and dialogs
JIRA
- currently no P0 bugs
- 60 P1 bugs, 24 have no assignees
- 781 P2 bugs, 273 have no assignees
- < 1000 P3, 311 with no assignee
- 311: P4-P5
- Total: more than 1800 bugs
Probably many duplicates, many corner cases
- During the last year: ~500 patches, ~200 bugs fixed
- 43 non-bug Tasks, mostly assigned
So, lots of bugs to work on, that's the focus now.
- Not enough manpower, we need help from the community
- Fixing bugs tends to create more (especially with dock widget or mdi)
Possible new features
We have a green light, everybody knows it's important to customers, but not enough manpower. Also,
not a lot of good ideas lately. Should we continue fixing bugs mainly, and/or start adding more features; if so, what?
- Ribbon? but MS has patents and had a lawsuit threat; but ribbons are appearing in their products on non-Windows platforms anyway, and on OpenOffice etc.
- Charting features, but they are kindof independent
- Notifications (beyond QSystemTrayIcon)
- Hamburger menu
- Putting stuff into the titlebar
- Selector buttons
- Segmented buttons
- Switches
- Anything else that Pencil or Balsamiq has, that we don't have
- Client-side window decorations
- Finger hit detection, smarter than taking the middle of the touchpoint somehow
- Text selection
New styling system for Qt 6
QStyle: should we revisit it for Qt 6?
- only worthwhile if we can have something shared between widgets and controls
- dependency only on QtGui
- idea: use QtQuick for styling?
- customers like widgets with quirks... sometimes by subclassing, sometimes by custom styles
- no template pattern for QStyleOption, e.g. for QLineEdit, QComboBox - you need to redo too much work to customize it
- idea: physics and lighting
- more generalized QPalette
- KDE has a bigger one
- or, unify the style and the palette
- image-based style for widgets?
- mobile styles, e.g. Android
- ship fancier cross-platform styles like Controls 2 has
More ideas & discussion points
- Portability of widget apps to mobile?
- Use the scene graph?
- But why take the risk... just make QtQuick better, have native styles in Controls etc.
- If QtQuick C++ APIs are familiar enough, it might help people to switch
- embedding QtQuick in native or widget-based applications
- per-platform UIs, just as you can already do in QML
- native UIs with Qt backend is sometimes worthwhile, c.f. Microsoft OneDrive
- mobile often comes first nowadays
- "100% native looking" (whatever that means)
- have to respect all native conventions like right click time and reverse scrolling regardless of style
- Widgets ain't broke so don't fix it too much.
- We will keep supporting widgets for the foreseeable future
- QML might never replace widgets (that was Nokia thinking)
State of the Union
QtCo took over maintainership from KDAB
- Jan Arve: layouts
- Gabriel: style
- Eskil: text
- Andrea: graphics view
- Richard: overall
- still unassigned: stylesheets, windows and dialogs
JIRA
- currently no P0 bugs
- 60 P1 bugs, 24 have no assignees
- 781 P2 bugs, 273 have no assignees
- < 1000 P3, 311 with no assignee
- 311: P4-P5
- Total: more than 1800 bugs
Probably many duplicates, many corner cases
- During the last year: ~500 patches, ~200 bugs fixed
- 43 non-bug Tasks, mostly assigned
So, lots of bugs to work on, that's the focus now.
- Not enough manpower, we need help from the community
- Fixing bugs tends to create more (especially with dock widget or mdi)
Possible new features
We have a green light, everybody knows it's important to customers, but not enough manpower. Also,
not a lot of good ideas lately. Should we continue fixing bugs mainly, and/or start adding more features; if so, what?
- Ribbon? but MS has patents and had a lawsuit threat; but ribbons are appearing in their products on non-Windows platforms anyway, and on OpenOffice etc.
- Charting features, but they are kindof independent
- Notifications (beyond QSystemTrayIcon)
- Hamburger menu
- Putting stuff into the titlebar
- Selector buttons
- Segmented buttons
- Switches
- Anything else that Pencil or Balsamiq has, that we don't have
- Client-side window decorations
- Finger hit detection, smarter than taking the middle of the touchpoint somehow
- Text selection
New styling system for Qt 6
QStyle: should we revisit it for Qt 6?
- only worthwhile if we can have something shared between widgets and controls
- dependency only on QtGui
- idea: use QtQuick for styling?
- customers like widgets with quirks... sometimes by subclassing, sometimes by custom styles
- no template pattern for QStyleOption, e.g. for QLineEdit, QComboBox - you need to redo too much work to customize it
- idea: physics and lighting
- more generalized QPalette
- KDE has a bigger one
- or, unify the style and the palette
- image-based style for widgets?
- mobile styles, e.g. Android
- ship fancier cross-platform styles like Controls 2 has
More ideas & discussion points
- Portability of widget apps to mobile?
- Use the scene graph?
- But why take the risk... just make QtQuick better, have native styles in Controls etc.
- If QtQuick C++ APIs are familiar enough, it might help people to switch
- embedding QtQuick in native or widget-based applications
- per-platform UIs, just as you can already do in QML
- native UIs with Qt backend is sometimes worthwhile, c.f. Microsoft OneDrive
- mobile often comes first nowadays
- "100% native looking" (whatever that means)
- have to respect all native conventions like right click time and reverse scrolling regardless of style
- Widgets ain't broke so don't fix it too much.
- We will keep supporting widgets for the foreseeable future
- QML might never replace widgets (that was Nokia thinking)